Comments on: Raw Milk Contamination? http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289 local food, education, action Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:59:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: eatkamloops.org » BC Supreme Court Gives Injunction Against Raw Milk http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289/comment-page-1#comment-1589 eatkamloops.org » BC Supreme Court Gives Injunction Against Raw Milk Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:01:36 +0000 http://eatkamloops.org/?p=2289#comment-1589 [...] For other postings on this issue please read: Canadian Government Appeals Michael Schmidt’s Acquittal, Michael Schmidt, Raw Milk Activist, Acquitted!, and Raw Milk Contamination? [...] [...] For other postings on this issue please read: Canadian Government Appeals Michael Schmidt’s Acquittal, Michael Schmidt, Raw Milk Activist, Acquitted!, and Raw Milk Contamination? [...]

]]> By: publisher http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289/comment-page-1#comment-796 publisher Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:37:55 +0000 http://eatkamloops.org/?p=2289#comment-796 Dear Sui, As I have been reading media releases on this story a number of questions come to my mind: 1. Are there any ill people connected to the "contaminated" raw milk? 2. Why hasn't the media asked BCCDC for the number of cases of illness in the area? 3. Why hasn't the media asked BCCDC if there is a proven link between the pathogens in the ill person(s) and the raw milk? 4. Why are the raw milk samples consider "contaminated" if the colony forming units (cfu) found in the samples are less than the industry standard? 5. Have we put out a province wide warning on a food item without having proof of a direct link to an actual illness? 6. Was there even a need to do a province wide warning if the milk is owned and consumed by ONLY cooperative members of Home on the Range? I am very perplexed by these questions. Dear Sui,
As I have been reading media releases on this story a number of questions come to my mind:
1. Are there any ill people connected to the “contaminated” raw milk?
2. Why hasn’t the media asked BCCDC for the number of cases of illness in the area?
3. Why hasn’t the media asked BCCDC if there is a proven link between the pathogens in the ill person(s) and the raw milk?
4. Why are the raw milk samples consider “contaminated” if the colony forming units (cfu) found in the samples are less than the industry standard?
5. Have we put out a province wide warning on a food item without having proof of a direct link to an actual illness?
6. Was there even a need to do a province wide warning if the milk is owned and consumed by ONLY cooperative members of Home on the Range?
I am very perplexed by these questions.

]]> By: Sui Ryu http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289/comment-page-1#comment-790 Sui Ryu Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:00:24 +0000 http://eatkamloops.org/?p=2289#comment-790 Yes I remember you. I was inspired by you in many ways, and since your blog was up, I have been enjoying the great reads! Isn't it interesting, that the health agency's result actually shows that the raw products were well within the standard bacteria count for store-bought milk? It's just helping to solidify our confidence in going "raw"! It's unfortunate people are so conditioned to be afraid of "bacteria". We are alive thanks to them. Also, this recent media pressure reminds me of my visit at Aldor Acre in Langley who has a nice fancy dairy presentation facility, mostly for school trips. I went there as a family, and asked the farmer what she thought about raw milk. She said she drank the milk she produced, but she wouldn't recommend for city folks because their immune system wasn't most likely built as strong as that of the farm folks. Interestingly, she was affirming my belief in raw milk. Yes I remember you. I was inspired by you in many ways, and since your blog was up, I have been enjoying the great reads! Isn’t it interesting, that the health agency’s result actually shows that the raw products were well within the standard bacteria count for store-bought milk? It’s just helping to solidify our confidence in going “raw”! It’s unfortunate people are so conditioned to be afraid of “bacteria”. We are alive thanks to them. Also, this recent media pressure reminds me of my visit at Aldor Acre in Langley who has a nice fancy dairy presentation facility, mostly for school trips. I went there as a family, and asked the farmer what she thought about raw milk. She said she drank the milk she produced, but she wouldn’t recommend for city folks because their immune system wasn’t most likely built as strong as that of the farm folks. Interestingly, she was affirming my belief in raw milk.

]]> By: Caroline Cooper http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289/comment-page-1#comment-788 Caroline Cooper Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:35:47 +0000 http://eatkamloops.org/?p=2289#comment-788 Dear Sui, I don't know if you remember me, but you gave me a tour of Home on the Range. I had just returned from the Weston A Price 2008 Conference in California. I also visited the two raw dairies supplying the state of California. Plus I got to see and smell the conventional dairies that supply the industrial milk in the state. This is a link to a posting on the experience: http://eatkamloops.org/archives/1332 Both Organic Pastures and Claravale Dairies are large operations with heavy costs in land and equipment. What I learned at Home on the Range was that a small operation could do the same without the massive overhead. I was very impressed with the simplicity of the operation and the simple methods used for handling milk safely. I will use aspects of Home on the Range as a model for the Kamloops Herdshare Program. Please come and visit anytime. You are very welcome! Dear Sui,

I don’t know if you remember me, but you gave me a tour of Home on the Range. I had just returned from the Weston A Price 2008 Conference in California. I also visited the two raw dairies supplying the state of California. Plus I got to see and smell the conventional dairies that supply the industrial milk in the state. This is a link to a posting on the experience:
http://eatkamloops.org/archives/1332

Both Organic Pastures and Claravale Dairies are large operations with heavy costs in land and equipment. What I learned at Home on the Range was that a small operation could do the same without the massive overhead. I was very impressed with the simplicity of the operation and the simple methods used for handling milk safely. I will use aspects of Home on the Range as a model for the Kamloops Herdshare Program.

Please come and visit anytime. You are very welcome!

]]> By: Sui Ryu http://eatkamloops.org/archives/2289/comment-page-1#comment-776 Sui Ryu Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:54:03 +0000 http://eatkamloops.org/?p=2289#comment-776 Hi Caroline. Thanks for your post regarding the recent media hype about risk of raw milk. I work closely with Alice, and I know all the cares she put into her operation to make sure of the safety of the raw milk products. And I believe that most shareholders are aware that they are to take initiative in making sure that they understand what it means for them to be raw milk consumers. I work for the farm, but I am shareholder, too. And I am confident in the food produced at this farm. If not, I have already cancelled my share by now. I am dissapointed in the relevant health agencies to be doing little to do what they are mandated to do, which is to ensure and to promote public health. I do not believe the most recent warning has such effect. By the way, congratulation on the progress you're making toward the herdshare of your area. I was planning to attend the upcoming meeting. However, I have to help with Alice and will miss the meeting this time. I look forward to your update and wish you the best with your endeavor. Regards, Sui Chilliwack, BC Hi Caroline. Thanks for your post regarding the recent media hype about risk of raw milk. I work closely with Alice, and I know all the cares she put into her operation to make sure of the safety of the raw milk products. And I believe that most shareholders are aware that they are to take initiative in making sure that they understand what it means for them to be raw milk consumers. I work for the farm, but I am shareholder, too. And I am confident in the food produced at this farm. If not, I have already cancelled my share by now. I am dissapointed in the relevant health agencies to be doing little to do what they are mandated to do, which is to ensure and to promote public health. I do not believe the most recent warning has such effect. By the way, congratulation on the progress you’re making toward the herdshare of your area. I was planning to attend the upcoming meeting. However, I have to help with Alice and will miss the meeting this time. I look forward to your update and wish you the best with your endeavor.
Regards,
Sui
Chilliwack, BC

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